Probably illegitimate


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Posted by John Butler on April 14, 19103 at 19:03:45:

In Reply to: Piers FitzThomas Butler posted by Peter Hovenden-Jones on March 26, 19103 at 20:46:53:

Presumably he was one of the illegitimate sons

The following extract is from "The next Earl of Ormond ?" pedigree prepared by Lord Dunboyne.


16. THOMAS, 1531-1614; succ. 1546, as 10th. Earl of Ormond, 3rd. E. of Ossory and 2nd. V. Thurles; m., c. 1559, Elizabeth (d.s.p. 1582), da. of Thomas (Berkeley), 6th Lord Berkeley; m. 1582, Elizabeth, da. of John (Sheffield), 2nd. Lord Sheffield, and by her who d. 1600 had No. 24; m. 1601, Helen, da. of David (Barry), 3rd. Viscount Buttevant and by her who d. 1642 had no issue.

24. JAMES, 1583- c. 1590 s.p. He had no legit., but more than 6 illegit., bros. (Carew MSS, 626 & 635, pp. 38-40). The inclusion, in Betham's 1849 MS. Pedigree (supra), of Theobald as a brother, is an obvious mistake and is repeated in Swan's 1968 MS pedigree (supra).





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